My country has gone to shit!

  • As a new login system we use the Wacken.ID. To link your current account in the Wacken Forum with the Wacken.ID, please click on the link and enter your e-mail address, which you also use in the forum. A user with your username and email address will be created automatically. You will then receive an email and will need to confirm your Wacken.ID.

    If you have any problems, please send us an email.

    Click here to migrate your account to a Wacken.ID.

Warthog

W:O:A Metalmaster
May 29, 2002
6,625
0
81
44
Washington D.C., USA
www.wacken.us
Originally posted by Hammered_gods
USA is a "democratic state".Czech rep is a capitalistic state.


Don't confuse economics with politics (even though they're inevitably intertwined). What's a "capitalistic state"?


The USA is not a democracy, it's a republic. We vote for people to represent us and make decisions in Washington DC. If it was a purely democratic state, all 280 million people would vote on every single decision. And that's just fucking impossible. It's hard enough for them to vote for a president every four years.

The good folks at the CIA (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ez.html#Govt) tell me you're a parliamentary democracy, which is the same idea: you vote for people to represent you in your Parlament and they in turn elect a president. You don't vote directly on national decisions. Again, for a nation of 10 million, that would be impossible.
 

Warthog

W:O:A Metalmaster
May 29, 2002
6,625
0
81
44
Washington D.C., USA
www.wacken.us
Originally posted by mugabe
Actually that is probably the only way to fight terrorism. As long as you leave survivors, they are prone to become terrorists to avenge their relatives and whatnots. Just look at the U.S. How many civilians have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq since WTC? 15.000?

More than that, I thought! But we don't hear that part of it...only of the few hundred that humanitarian aid groups are helping out.


Then you have the outrage of the U.S. public over the Iraqi not being grateful, and it being typical of the muslims. I've also followed the discussion of torture prior to the photographic evidence of last weeks, and the consensus seems to be that it's ok if it may save American lives.

Damn skippy! What amazes me still is how many Bush supporters like to prattle on about how we're great it is that we're liberating Iraq and in the same breath grumble about how they'd like to kill all those "fucking raghead terrorist sand niggers".

Oh yeah, can't forget some diatribe about how all you Euro sissies can go fuck yourselves if you don't like it. You're all just jealous because you can't flex your military muscle the way the USA can. We're #1 yay!

Never mind that half the grown adults in the US couldn't pick France or Germany out on a map if it wasn't marked.

As much as I may not think much of John Kerry, I'd like to see him elected just to get all these jingoistic bastards to shut the fuck up already. I love my country, and have no shame of it, but I can't fucking stand a lot of the people who live here... and I'm pissed as all hell that a bunch of so-called patriots in the government are too damn dumb to see how they're unwittingly destroying the USA.

In fact, my sentiments are summed up by the following website:

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com
 

Hammered_gods

W:O:A Metalmaster
Sep 5, 2002
8,131
0
81
38
Czech Republic
Visit site
Originally posted by Warthog
Don't confuse economics with politics (even though they're inevitably intertwined). What's a "capitalistic state"?


The USA is not a democracy, it's a republic. We vote for people to represent us and make decisions in Washington DC. If it was a purely democratic state, all 280 million people would vote on every single decision. And that's just fucking impossible. It's hard enough for them to vote for a president every four years.

The good folks at the CIA (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ez.html#Govt) tell me you're a parliamentary democracy, which is the same idea: you vote for people to represent you in your Parlament and they in turn elect a president. You don't vote directly on national decisions. Again, for a nation of 10 million, that would be impossible.

Hey this reminds me about what my mom told me, that we are have less people with AIDS than people from other countries from Europe :D

Ok well ok we dont wont pretty much at all :D:D:D But it doesnt matter cause we have the second president since Czechoslovakia split and I mean, he is normal. He has economy college and he knows pretty well, that czech people are pretty moody and if they would even try to take some freedom for them, they would protest as hell.FOr example when there was anti globalization meeting in Prague, they destroyed everything around, especially cars and Mc Donalds :D:D:D
 

Hammered_gods

W:O:A Metalmaster
Sep 5, 2002
8,131
0
81
38
Czech Republic
Visit site
Originally posted by Warthog
More than that, I thought! But we don't hear that part of it...only of the few hundred that humanitarian aid groups are helping out.



Damn skippy! What amazes me still is how many Bush supporters like to prattle on about how we're great it is that we're liberating Iraq and in the same breath grumble about how they'd like to kill all those "fucking raghead terrorist sand niggers".

Oh yeah, can't forget some diatribe about how all you Euro sissies can go fuck yourselves if you don't like it. You're all just jealous because you can't flex your military muscle the way the USA can. We're #1 yay!

Never mind that half the grown adults in the US couldn't pick France or Germany out on a map if it wasn't marked.

As much as I may not think much of John Kerry, I'd like to see him elected just to get all these jingoistic bastards to shut the fuck up already. I love my country, and have no shame of it, but I can't fucking stand a lot of the people who live here... and I'm pissed as all hell that a bunch of so-called patriots in the government are too damn dumb to see how they're unwittingly destroying the USA.

In fact, my sentiments are summed up by the following website:

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com

You know what is funny? They found out that Kerrys family came from Czech republic :D:D:D
 

mugabe

W:O:A Metalhead
Aug 7, 2002
2,549
0
61
Avesta, Sweden
www.kurtz.se
Originally posted by Warthog
Damn skippy! What amazes me still is how many Bush supporters like to prattle on about how we're great it is that we're liberating Iraq and in the same breath grumble about how they'd like to kill all those "fucking raghead terrorist sand niggers".
Yes, it's weird, considering the entire operation is aimed at liberating the long-suffering friends of the American people - the Iraqi. We all were deeply moved when the U.S. stood up for the freedom of Kuwait a couple of years ago.

Has there ever been a successful case of democracy being forced upon a nation, btw, other than in the shape of puppet regimes?

Originally posted by Warthog
In fact, my sentiments are summed up by the following website:
http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com
I guess Ralph Nader isn't looking at too many votes this year.
 

LooseCannon

W:O:A Metalhead
Aug 3, 2002
4,998
0
61
57
Baltimore,Maryland USA
Visit site
Originally posted by Warthog
More than that, I thought! But we don't hear that part of it...only of the few hundred that humanitarian aid groups are helping out.



Damn skippy! What amazes me still is how many Bush supporters like to prattle on about how we're great it is that we're liberating Iraq and in the same breath grumble about how they'd like to kill all those "fucking raghead terrorist sand niggers".

Oh yeah, can't forget some diatribe about how all you Euro sissies can go fuck yourselves if you don't like it. You're all just jealous because you can't flex your military muscle the way the USA can. We're #1 yay!

Never mind that half the grown adults in the US couldn't pick France or Germany out on a map if it wasn't marked.

As much as I may not think much of John Kerry, I'd like to see him elected just to get all these jingoistic bastards to shut the fuck up already. I love my country, and have no shame of it, but I can't fucking stand a lot of the people who live here... and I'm pissed as all hell that a bunch of so-called patriots in the government are too damn dumb to see how they're unwittingly destroying the USA.

In fact, my sentiments are summed up by the following website:

http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com





I still love my country,too.Remember when you showed me the American flag & I told you to put it away?I didn't want to see you become a target for any nastyness.I slowly becoming a ex-patriot.I look around & I see nothing but bullshit being thrown all around by OUR elected officals( both Dem. & Rep.).I told friends & family that the 1st oppertunity(sp) I get,I'm moving to Europe.Bush has the oil companies in his back pocket(I've hearing about him wanting to drill on a Fed. Wildlife Reserve in Alaska),he's throwing up smoke screen after smoke screen(the FCC,Same Sex Marriage,etc.)to cover up what a mess we did in Iraq( it is the new Viet Nam).My dad is a ex Marine(he did a tour in Nam),& even he told me that the war was wrong.You can't trust the main stream media here(Fox News Channel is very conservative & CNN is very liberal).Bush won't even open the doors to stem cell research that could save millions of lives(from what I'm hearing,Christopher Reeves is in Isreal where they're making leaps & bounds with stem cell research).

I honestly don't think it's going to get better here in the US.
 

Hammered_gods

W:O:A Metalmaster
Sep 5, 2002
8,131
0
81
38
Czech Republic
Visit site
Originally posted by LooseCannon
I still love my country,too.Remember when you showed me the American flag & I told you to put it away?I didn't want to see you become a target for any nastyness.I slowly becoming a ex-patriot.I look around & I see nothing but bullshit being thrown all around by OUR elected officals( both Dem. & Rep.).I told friends & family that the 1st oppertunity(sp) I get,I'm moving to Europe.Bush has the oil companies in his back pocket(I've hearing about him wanting to drill on a Fed. Wildlife Reserve in Alaska),he's throwing up smoke screen after smoke screen(the FCC,Same Sex Marriage,etc.)to cover up what a mess we did in Iraq( it is the new Viet Nam).My dad is a ex Marine(he did a tour in Nam),& even he told me that the war was wrong.You can't trust the main stream media here(Fox News Channel is very conservative & CNN is very liberal).Bush won't even open the doors to stem cell research that could save millions of lives(from what I'm hearing,Christopher Reeves is in Isreal where they're making leaps & bounds with stem cell research).

I honestly don't think it's going to get better here in the US.

Come to czech, you can drink beer on the street, at McDonalds, nodoby would mind that you will be drunk, we dont have terrorists cause they go to Prague on holidays :D:D:D
 

MrHellRaiser

W:O:A Metalhead
Mar 1, 2004
1,291
0
61
42
Holon, Israel
Visit site
Originally posted by Hammered_gods
Come to czech, you can drink beer on the street, at McDonalds, nodoby would mind that you will be drunk, we dont have terrorists cause they go to Prague on holidays :D:D:D

come to Israel. all same shit in here. but you get used to it after a minute or 2 ...
 

LooseCannon

W:O:A Metalhead
Aug 3, 2002
4,998
0
61
57
Baltimore,Maryland USA
Visit site
Originally posted by Hammered_gods
Come to czech, you can drink beer on the street, at McDonalds, nodoby would mind that you will be drunk, we dont have terrorists cause they go to Prague on holidays :D:D:D




I might take ya up on that.

By bthe by,my ICQ is fucked up,Ivi.I got a certain CD that you asked about.
 

LooseCannon

W:O:A Metalhead
Aug 3, 2002
4,998
0
61
57
Baltimore,Maryland USA
Visit site
Today in Iraq,a American civilian was beheaded by Al-Queda members on video as revenge for what OUR(The US) troops did to the Iraqi POW's.


This is just the beginning,I guess.It's going wind up like Isreal vs Palestine(where they kill each other as a form of "revenge").
 

MrHellRaiser

W:O:A Metalhead
Mar 1, 2004
1,291
0
61
42
Holon, Israel
Visit site
Originally posted by LooseCannon
Today in Iraq,a American civilian was beheaded by Al-Queda members on video as revenge for what OUR(The US) troops did to the Iraqi POW's.


This is just the beginning,I guess.It's going wind up like Isreal vs Palestine(where they kill each other as a form of "revenge").

it's not exactly "revenge" over here. it's just stupidity. stupidity and desperation. but you guys don't worry over there, you won't be like us. you will be like the russians and chechenians. ;)

and as for the poor beheaded guy, you can d/l the footage on www.ogrish.com. tho' it isn't recomended to do so ...
 

Zombi

W:O:A Metalmaster
Jan 10, 2002
11,260
5
93
40
Edinburgh, Scotland
hehe you know...the minute I heard the news on TV yesterday, my first thought was "I bet ogrish has the video already" and they did.

didn't download it though, not really my kind of entertainment.