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Mü_Exotic

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Was macht der Deutsche in seine Freizeit?
Er isst seine Landsmänner. Vrebergt sich, und erst nach dem Tod findet man heraus dass der Massmürder war.
Sagt was über eure Polizei, ne? :o

"Bei den Ermittlungen gab es immer wieder Pannen. So lag den Ermittlern schon im August 1995, einen Monat nach der Entführung von Mélissa und Julie, ein Bericht vor, in dem Dutrouxs vormaliger Komplize Claude Thirault, der der Polizei bereits als Handlanger bei Dutrouxs Raubüberfällen bekannt war, behauptete, Marc Dutroux hätte ihm Geld geboten, damit er auf einem Dorffest junge Mädchen entführe. Dafür wurden ihm 150.000 Franc (etwa 3.700 Euro) in Aussicht gestellt. Ferner baue Dutroux im Keller eines seiner drei Häuser Zellen.
Trotz dieses Berichts und der Vorstrafe des Beschuldigten wurde das Anwesen Dutrouxs erst im Dezember 1995, vier Monate nach diesem Bericht, durchsucht, als die vorübergehende Inhaftierung Dutrouxs aufgrund von Autodiebstählen erfolgte. Die neu eingezogene, frisch verputzte Wand fiel den Ermittlern bei der darauffolgenden Durchsuchung trotz der Kinderstimmen nicht auf."

Sagt was über eure Polizei, ne? :o
 

perfectmansions

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I am pro-Pegida :D

I think the politicians should have got the permission of the people, before Merkel invited everyone on the planet, to migrate to Germany.
 
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perfectmansions

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I don't see why Europe has to take all the world's economic migrants. The genuine refugees account for about 1 in 5.

The Syrian Civil War started when a group of religious fanatics attacked the secular government.

There is no reason why the West is to blame for this massive shift of people, and we should not have to accommodate them. All newcomers to any country require housing, education, healthcare. And we cannot take all the world's poor.
 

agresionpower

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I don't see why Europe has to take all the world's economic migrants. The genuine refugees account for about 1 in 5.

The Syrian Civil War started when a group of religious fanatics attacked the secular government.

There is no reason why the West is to blame for this massive shift of people, and we should not have to accommodate them. All newcomers to any country require housing, education, healthcare. And we cannot take all the world's poor.

woow, do you even believe your own lies dude? :confused:
I believe you've been drinking the wrong kool aid.

the amount of "geuine refugees" as you call it surpasses the 60%.

the syrian civil war didn't start when religious fanatics attacked a secular gouvernment. it started when the gouvernment attacked protesters, who in return took up weapons to defend them selfs. maybe you need to reed back some of the news from 2011 for a recap.
The religous nutbags cam in later, mostly from iraq, which "we" left in ruins by that other illigal war, remember, or are you going to deny that as well?
 

perfectmansions

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No I don't think so. Assad was quite a progressive leader. He wore a suit, and was Western-looking. He may have committed human rights abuses, but in war everything goes to rat shit. All I know, is that the people that attacked him, were far worse. People that attack only out of religious fanaticism, must be at the bottom of the pile.

The UK and US, took the wrong side in this conflict, they were giving money and arms to the Islamist extremists. Then Putin swooped in and made us look like fools. He read the situation well.
 

agresionpower

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No I don't think so. Assad was quite a progressive leader. He wore a suit, and was Western-looking. He may have committed human rights abuses, but in war everything goes to rat shit. All I know, is that the people that attacked him, were far worse. People that attack only out of religious fanaticism, must be at the bottom of the pile.

The UK and US, took the wrong side in this conflict, they were giving money and arms to the Islamist extremists. Then Putin swooped in and made us look like fools. He read the situation well.

wow, and here I was thinking you had a working brain.

"How did the protests start?
The unrest began in the southern city of Deraa in March when locals gathered to demand the release of 14 school children who were arrested and reportedly tortured after writing on a wall the well-known slogan of the popular uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt: "The people want the downfall of the regime." The protesters also called for democracy and greater freedom, though not President Assad's resignation.
The view from next door

How Syria's neighbours are reacting
The peaceful show of dissent was, however, too much for the government and when people marched though the city after Friday prayers on 18 March, security forces opened fire, killing four people. The following day, they shot at mourners at the victims' funerals, killing another person.
Within days, the unrest in Deraa had spiralled out of the control of the local authorities. In late March, the army's fourth armoured division - commanded by the president's brother, Maher - was sent in to crush the emboldened protesters. Dozens of people were killed, as tanks shelled residential areas and troops stormed homes, rounding up those believed to have attended demonstrations.
But the crackdown failed to stop the unrest in Deraa, instead triggering anti-government protests in other towns and cities across the country, including Baniyas, Homs, Hama and the suburbs of Damascus. The army subsequently besieged them, blaming "armed gangs and terrorists" for the unrest. By mid-May, the death toll had reached 1,000."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-13855203
 

agresionpower

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wow, and here I was thinking you had a working brain.

"How did the protests start?
The unrest began in the southern city of Deraa in March when locals gathered to demand the release of 14 school children who were arrested and reportedly tortured after writing on a wall the well-known slogan of the popular uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt: "The people want the downfall of the regime." The protesters also called for democracy and greater freedom, though not President Assad's resignation.
The view from next door

How Syria's neighbours are reacting
The peaceful show of dissent was, however, too much for the government and when people marched though the city after Friday prayers on 18 March, security forces opened fire, killing four people. The following day, they shot at mourners at the victims' funerals, killing another person.
Within days, the unrest in Deraa had spiralled out of the control of the local authorities. In late March, the army's fourth armoured division - commanded by the president's brother, Maher - was sent in to crush the emboldened protesters. Dozens of people were killed, as tanks shelled residential areas and troops stormed homes, rounding up those believed to have attended demonstrations.
But the crackdown failed to stop the unrest in Deraa, instead triggering anti-government protests in other towns and cities across the country, including Baniyas, Homs, Hama and the suburbs of Damascus. The army subsequently besieged them, blaming "armed gangs and terrorists" for the unrest. By mid-May, the death toll had reached 1,000."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-13855203

this was all well before ISIS was active in Syria.
the article also says:
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Opposition figures have stressed that they seek a "multi-national, multi-ethnic and religiously tolerant society".
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and here is the first article I could find about al-nusra and al-qaeda in iraq (which later transformed into ISIS) stating they were active in syria at all:
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130409/qaeda-iraq-confirms-syrias-nusra-part-network
Which remarkably enough is exactly one year later.
 
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perfectmansions

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Okay you've got one accout of it, I might have another.

The point is, there was a leader who was progressive, and he was attacked by a group of soldiers motivated by the Koran. And then the Western forces thought to train and arm these religious fighters.
 

perfectmansions

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I mean how do you think your government would try to put down a rebellion. It would probably be quite dramatic and violent I imagine. It doesn't matter how you frame this, it's a fight against the people who are religous fanatics, and the others.