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Yanos666

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Firstly for me at the gates aren't really much of death metal i'm not sure what genre i'd put them in an personally i'm not a critic so you can call them what ever you like.

Secondly; The pagan viking kids thing that must be a european thing cos in britain we dont really have that kinda "scene" though personally I am a pagan by religion and I must say I do like the pagan/viking metal bands and am glad that the "scene" is taking off, may bring more people to look into the pagan religion in general and secondly it combines brutal riffs with melodies so i'm all for it! ;) Amon Amarth I wouldn't say where part of that scene though i'd put them more in line with trad melodic DM bands from scandinavia than the likes of eluveitie/ensiferum/korpiklaani etc etc if you're going down that road then also Borknagar would be pagan/viking kid stuff as well as Einherjer! Dont know what genre you put Einherjer into really either cos to listen to them (and I have a lot by them) i wouldn't really say dm/bm so mch again.... its jus some sort of slow churning stuff not much of a fan tbh!


Napalm Death... I LOVE this band, used to be the master of grindcore now I dont really know either i would still say kinda grindcore but maybe with thrash and dm thrown in???

My band I was in played as far as we where concerned Black Metal, but people would call us death metal or thrash metal a lot too and we never got it, I still dont!?! I think its too easy to label bands in the more exetreme genres, but the lines between dm/bm/grindcore can easily be blurred I think, Anaal Nathrakh for example, kinda BM kinda DM sound like grindcore lol!?! where would you put them?

Nile bm or dm?

Behemoth dm or bm?

the list could go on but i need to get back to cutting the grass!
 

ElRazi

W:O:A Metalhead
9 Jan. 2009
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at the gates IS DEATH METAL for sure!!!
amon amarth suck (live), so do endstille - please dont compare them to bands like marduk, germany is the only country endstille are successful in.
emos listen to endstille, tokio hotel fans listen to endstille, german folk kiddies who only know a few black metal acts listen to endstille and of course posers.
im looking forward to the gigs of sarke, einherjer, kampfar and ENSLAVED - no BIG names, but good bands.
im glad ill also visit the devilside festival (sepultura, motörhead, soulfly, sodom, anthrax, misfits - some bands i miss in the wacken billing) and the summerbreeze (opeth, amorphis, entombed, voivod, suffocation, vader, evocation, grave, grand magus, hate eternal, katatonia, kreator, misery index, necrophagist etc) so there'll be a lot of brutal acts for me this year.
 
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Sinus 30

W:O:A Metalhead
4 Dez. 2007
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Man, this year nothing can compare with such huge band as Carcass. Also there is no old school death metal as at 08' - Obituary and Grave. Also you forgot Job For a Cowbay which gave facesmashing performance of brutality.



Where do you see 5 metalcore bands? I see only 3: BFMV, BMTH and Calejjon (or whatever the name is).


Job for a cowboy is not worth to mention here, in my opinion. You could sum them up in last years Metalcore/ Deathcore.
Metalcore this year: BfmV, Bmth, Callejon, Walls of Jericho, now we habe eths. I don't want go that far, but Machine Head is not pure Thrash Metal and Tracedawn not melo dm. so we have a lot, don't we?


I have to admit that my "calculations" weren't that solid.:D
This years line up has its failings concerning the real extrem stuff. Last years Gorgoroth, At the Gates, Carcass, Grave, Massacre, Opeth to count again the big names are all in all more worth than Amon Amarth, Kampfar, Endstille, Enslaved and Einherjer. But I was also a bit unsatisfied last year, because in 2007 it was way better with Immortal, Cannibal Corpse etc. I don't even have to name more..
 

Astrum

W:O:A Metalhead
9 Mai 2006
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Job for a cowboy is not worth to mention here, in my opinion. You could sum them up in last years Metalcore/ Deathcore.
Metalcore this year: BfmV, Bmth, Callejon, Walls of Jericho, now we habe eths. I don't want go that far, but Machine Head is not pure Thrash Metal and Tracedawn not melo dm. so we have a lot, don't we?
Have you even listen to JFAC? Pure brutal death metal in veins of Suffocation etc.
And Walls of Jericho are hardcore and not metalcore - a big difference. And I am actually looking forward to see them live.
Machine Head is the best live metal act I've seen through 16 years of being a metalhead (and Wacken resident since 2002). And it's groove metal, nothing to do with MC/DC.
Make your homework next time.
 
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wattie

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6 März 2009
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Looks like I don't have anything to in here since some people are considering Job for a cowboy as metal core ...
Open up your fucking hears mates ...
 

Seatiger

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at the gates IS DEATH METAL for sure!!!
amon amarth suck (live), so do endstille - please dont compare them to bands like marduk, germany is the only country endstille are successful in.
emos listen to endstille, tokio hotel fans listen to endstille, german folk kiddies who only know a few black metal acts listen to endstille and of course posers.
im looking forward to the gigs of sarke, einherjer, kampfar and ENSLAVED - no BIG names, but good bands.
im glad ill also visit the devilside festival (sepultura, motörhead, soulfly, sodom, anthrax, misfits - some bands i miss in the wacken billing) and the summerbreeze (opeth, amorphis, entombed, voivod, suffocation, vader, evocation, grave, grand magus, hate eternal, katatonia, kreator, misery index, necrophagist etc) so there'll be a lot of brutal acts for me this year.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:DSeriously man! Endstille and Tokio Hotel - nearly the same!:D Endstille and Bullet for my Valentine - No difference!:D Have you ever heard of Zelsius X? No? Great band. No one has heard of them outside of Kreis Steinburg - publicity has nothing to do with the quality of music my friend. And by the way, Marduk is a much older band.


@Yanos666: Behemoth and Nile are hard to classify, indeed...so is Belphegor!
 

ElRazi

W:O:A Metalhead
9 Jan. 2009
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seriously man ;)
 

Sinus 30

W:O:A Metalhead
4 Dez. 2007
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Have you even listen to JFAC? Pure brutal death metal in veins of Suffocation etc.
And Walls of Jericho are hardcore and not metalcore - a big difference. And I am actually looking forward to see them live.
Machine Head is the best live metal act I've seen through 16 years of being a metalhead (and Wacken resident since 2002). And it's groove metal, nothing to do with MC/DC.
Make your homework next time.

Positive thing is, we'll never meet in front of the stage ..

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No secret that those bands suck - old discussion. I'm shocked about the importance they get nowadays. The boarders between real dm and your crappy shit seem to blur more and more. Thats the real tragedy in metal today - waste of time discussing pros and cons with such losers of taste like you. Quite a surprise that you know about suffocation.
:rolleyes:

The pic below, so right! :D:D
 

Seatiger

W:O:A Metalmaster
1 Dez. 2008
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Oh my god...ok this really shocking me because none of my friends likes Endstille - they all say its too hard. And they are real Metalheads, not these New-school-kiddies! I cannot believe this....but nevertheless I'd say these gays, er, sry, guys are the minority.
By the way - I'm fucking proud of you. You are the first one giving arguments in a discussion in this forum. Awesome!:D;)
 

wattie

Member
6 März 2009
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Positive thing is, we'll never meet in front of the stage ..

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No secret that those bands suck - old discussion. I'm shocked about the importance they get nowadays. The boarders between real dm and your crappy shit seem to blur more and more. Thats the real tragedy in metal today - waste of time discussing pros and cons with such losers of taste like you. Quite a surprise that you know about suffocation.
:rolleyes:

The pic below, so right! :D:D

I'd like to know how old you are to allow yourself to give advices about what real death metal is /is not ...
 
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Lord Soth

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The photo reminds me of this one...

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(c) finlandiavodka

Some stupid guy at a pure thrash metal festival some weeks ago...:D:D:D

Supa Ritschie!:p