150K Before WOA 2010

[Deathbringer]

Well I was torn, I had to side with you or Kris, both being my friends I did not, stayed neutral, but still got attacked. But it's cool, I was victorious!

That's because she beat me and you could have made it a draw.

 

[808Metal]

it's lunch time, be back later.

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

hello Laila, in fact I am, very good in fact, thanks to your magic potion.

Glad to here that .. tho it was Kris who sent the magic potion

oh, ooops OK thanks to Kris then! And thanks to your well wishes.

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

failure rates of 50% and above in math exams are pretty common here, the most i've seen was ~90%, but that was a 'Nachklausur' (a 2nd exam written by those who couldn't write or failed the first)

don't know how it works over there, but i would try to find a correction error.
If you don't find one and that was a school-like class go ahead and blame the teacher

correction error?

 

[Deathbringer]

correction error?

As in the teacher messed up while correcting.

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

As in the teacher messed up while correcting.

it was a scantron test... no correcting involved

 

[Nidan]

Well, over here they tend to have tests that tend to cover lecture, past quizzes, what was in the book, and what was in study things. I've seen the best professors combine it in such a way it was just genuinely hard and few people passed. The goal of it to be to teach and figure out what the person did learn, not to just pass people. It could mean either that, bad teaching, or the fact nobody really gave the class an effort.

ah... ok

we don't have finals after each year here, but taking a normal class exam, assuming a fair teacher, you should have no big problems to get a 3 or 4 if you have (well) understood the things taught in class, for a 1 you also have to solve problems exceeding the taught stuff to some degree. If you haven't learned, you'll fail.
A class average around 3, maybe a bit worse, can be considered as normal.
(the scale over here is 1 to 6, 1 being the best, 5 and 6 meaning fail.)

for the final exams in the last year the conditions are harder, but on the other hand you can choose the classes you want to write the exams in to some degree. But if averaging over all students of a year the above should apply more or less.

 

[Nidan]

it was a scantron test... no correcting involved

ah... that works different here...
if we get multiple choice tests at some day they really screwed up the educational system

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

ah... that works different here...
if we get multiple choice tests at some day they really screwed up the educational system

why's that?

 

[Deathbringer]

ah... ok

we don't have finals after each year here, but taking a normal class exam, assuming a fair teacher, you should have no big problems to get a 3 or 4 if you have (well) understood the things taught in class, for a 1 you also have to solve problems exceeding the taught stuff to some degree. If you haven't learned, you'll fail.
A class average around 3, maybe a bit worse, can be considered as normal.
(the scale over here is 1 to 6, 1 being the best, 5 and 6 meaning fail.)

for the final exams in the last year the conditions are harder, but on the other hand you can choose the classes you want to write the exams in to some degree. But if averaging over all students of a year the above should apply more or less.

We have letter grades, A - D and F, where the E went I don't know. But, average tends to be around a B-C area, where F is failing.

Final exams here tend to do the same, you have to exceed some of the taught stuff as well in many cases.

I'll be honest, I have never failed a multiple choice test, and none of the good teachers here give them. The standardized tests are multiple choice and I cheated my way through one of the national tests on math and managed to get advanced in it because all I had to do was make out which one of the multiple choice answers work for the problem.

 

[Deathbringer]

why's that?

They're very lazy and don't prove anything. What would you consider is easier, a multiple choice test or one you have to fill in the answers?

 

[Nidan]

why's that?

it's the way of your solution that matters. If you make a small error in the beginning such as 2 +3 = 6, which (of course) leads to a wrong result, you normally loose a half point or so, but still get the other 2,5 for the right way

 

[Nidan]

it's the way of your solution that matters. If you make a small error in the beginning such as 2 +3 = 6, which (of course) leads to a wrong result, you normally loose a half point or so, but still get the other 2,5 for the right way

of course other ways than the taught one are allowed too, as long they're logical / correct

i still remember there was a question in one math exam, in which the other students wrote down a half page of math, while i was done with 2 or 3 sentences of logical conclusion

 

[Deathbringer]

it's the way of your solution that matters. If you make a small error in the beginning such as 2 +3 = 6, which (of course) leads to a wrong result, you normally loose a half point or so, but still get the other 2,5 for the right way

I hate it when teachers grade on that because they usually don't understand the way I go about math problems. Even if the answer is correct they almost always mark it wrong.

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

They're very lazy and don't prove anything. What would you consider is easier, a multiple choice test or one you have to fill in the answers?

true

it's the way of your solution that matters. If you make a small error in the beginning such as 2 +3 = 6, which (of course) leads to a wrong result, you normally loose a half point or so, but still get the other 2,5 for the right way

yea that's what's good, because I'm careless in math but I do the right process
multiple choice questions in math don't work