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Hurrabärchi

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Es sowas, ja. Wobei Tarja ja noch geht. Da gibt's echt viele, die wirklich grausam anzuhören sind.

Ja, ich hab ja auch zwei Nighttarja-CDs, das geht noch noch. Ich benutz den Begriff auch eher immer für die, die sich daran versuchen, kläglich scheitern und von diversen Symphonic-Metal-Fetischisten dennoch gnadenlos abgefeiert werden.
 

1000 Knork

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King Diamond hat gestern auf Facebook seinen Bassmann gefeuert. Angeblich ohne Konsequenzen für die Show

Hintergrund (Als Code, weil sonst so lang):
Code:
KING DIAMOND – THE TRUTH


When someone puts out extreme lies about you and your character,
there comes a time when you put a stop to it.

This is that time.


In the following, I will prove everything I say and I challenge Hal
Patino to do the same with what he said.

HAL'S STATEMENT: „I will not go into every detail, but the salary I
was offered to headline Wacken Open Air, and the 4 other shows
this summer was totally ridiculous.

Two days before the first rehearsal day, I wrote an e-mail
explaining my view on that topic along with a proposal for a fair
and realistic salary for these shows, For this, they accused me of’
"blackmailing" !!!

I found it disrespectful, and told them that if that is how I get
treated after 19 years, we part immediately !!

So I already left the band on Thursday the 17th of July, by
my own choice.”



First of all, I have no problem disclosing the band salary for
the European shows. For these 5 shows, it is €1000 per
festival show. This salary does not include per diems for days
not played on (which is on top of the salary), plus all shipping,
travel, maintenance, strings, drum sticks, insurance, hotel;
in short, the company bears all expenses.

We do not headline Wacken Open Air. In reality, we don't even
headline the Black Stage. Sometimes the headliner is not the
last band playing on a specific stage. As far as I know, Motorhead
playing right before us are the headliner for Friday August 1st
on the Black Stage.

After them, Slayer plays on the Main Stage and they are the
Wacken headliner for Friday. Then we cool everything down
on the Black Stage from midnight.

I don't remember who cools down the Main Stage after us.

I'm not gonna get into details on how our registered company
in Denmark is run, but it's a full company with year round expenses,
and if it wasn't for Wacken this year, I could guarantee that there
wouldn't be a US tour in the autumn.

The two indoor shows in Berlin and Tilburg are straight losses,
even if sold out.

On top of this comes EVERYTHING involved in a tour and our
company is unfortunately not at the level of Megadeth, Slayer,
etc, and can only offer what's possible.

We can't go and get loans in the bank to pay Hal's salary, however
minor it may seem.

If Hal didn’t find that satisfactory, no one kept him from leaving.
I just wish he hadn’t brought this up on the very day/evening I
arrived in Denmark (17th of July). He’s had an entire year to think
about this, and he brings it up now.

An important fact with regard to the salaries is that the entire
crew and band from last year’s European tour is identical to
both the European shows we’re about to do now and the US
shows later this year, except for Hal.

It seems everybody is satisfied with what the company can
offer at this point, except for Hal.

It doesn’t interest me one way or another whether Hal quit
the band or he was asked to leave. It’s exactly the same result.

It is interesting though that Hal shipped his gear at the company’s
expense to the rehearsal facilities on the very date (17th of July)
when he claims that he quit the band. We have the receipt for that
with stamped date. You can also see in his official statement that
he says that he was willing to try to fly in for some of the early
rehearsals from Norway. We’re talking after the 17th of July, which
again, doesn’t make sense. Why would he want to try to arrange
to fly in for rehearsals from Norway after he already quit the band?





HAL'S STATEMENT: „It’s typical King to say that I’m fired - he did
the same to me back in 1990 when he told the press that I was kicked
out of the band due to lack of enthusiasm and drug problems.

That was NOT the reason … It was just Too much touring, King got
dropped by Roadrunner Records, and I wanted to go in another direction.

He did the same to my best friends Mikkey Dee and Pete Blakk.”



These are extremely insulting and pathetic lies.

First of all, would Hal EVER have come back to play for King Diamond
if I had lied to the press about him being fired in 1990 due to
drug problems?

Hal was taken back into the band, sometime after he had asked
us in 2000 (I believe it was) at one of our rehearsals, which he
was attending with his son, if he could ever get another chance.
He swore he was totally clean and that he didn’t even drink anymore.

This, back then, made him a true hero to me, but this has of course
changed now. I just don’t trust him enough anymore to rely on his
contributions.

Next, can anybody explain to me what it means when Hal says that
the reason he was fired was instead „too much touring”? What does
this mean? When did anyone ever get fired for too much touring??

I would like Hal to present the letter from Roadrunner saying they
were dropping us from the label, if he can. This is another outright lie.

Most of you already know that we bought our way out of Roadrunner
by delivering to them „King Diamond Abigail LIVE 1987”, plus „Mercyful
Fate – Return of the Vampire”. I also have the contract to prove this,
and will gladly scan it in for all to see when I return to Dallas.

The whole problem with trust culminated while we were in the studio
recording The Eye, at which time Ole Bang, Andy LaRocque and myself
can vouch to the fact that Hal Patino was not to be found anywhere
when he was supposed to lay down bass tracks. No one could find him,
no matter how many phone calls we placed.

We ended up spending seven days watching the walls of expensive
Sweet Silence studios in Denmark with absolutely nothing to do but
sit and hope that Hal Patino would show up at some point.

This is actually part of the reason why we had to buy our way out
from the Roadrunner contract. We were so under recouped that the
label, with good reason I guess, wanted to take the over expenditure
off our next recording budget.

This was simply not an option if we were to continue as a band
at the time.

Seriously Hal, how dare you accuse me of having fired Mikkey Dee?!
You might have forgotten, but both Andy and I remember very well
Mikkey coming by Sweet Silence studios during The Eye recordings
to play us the new Dokken album, which he had just recorded with them.

I have never uttered a bad word about Mikkey, whom I’ve always
had the highest respect for, both as a drummer and as a person.
And he knows that.

Pete Blakk had some problems like you during the recording of
The Eye and the US tour prior to that, which at the time made
him unreliable. A situation I think everybody knows he took care
of in a very noble way.



HAL'S STATEMENT: „I am in Norway at the moment and will play
two live shows with my other band, I told the KD camp that I would
be able to fly back and forth so I did not miss the two first
rehearsals - and the next thing I read is a statement from King
where it says that I'm fired.”



Again, how is it possible to fire someone who has already quit???



LAST...

I would like to address Hal, if he reads this.

Personally, I don’t care if it says you quit, was let go, or whatever
with regards to what has happened, but we will obviously never be
working together again. There is no trust left.

We can stop it at that, or you can continue if you want, just don’t
forget that I know so many of the people you associate with just
as well as you, and I know what’s going on in your life.

Your real problem is really not what we’ve been talking about these
past couple of days, right?

You know, in the end, I’m really trying to be nice about this.



King