The Wacken Hot Tub (General Chat)

[Zachia]

Well try studying Finnish then and you'll learn what's weird.

Finns are weird themselfs -so they need a very weird language

 

[Milkie]

Finns are weird themselfs -so they need a very weird language

True I guess

 

[Quark]

Well try studying Finnish then and you'll learn what's weird.

12 cases! I had troubles with 4, but 12 (twelve! )!?

I'll stick to my 4 languages. More than sufficient!

 

[Milkie]

12 cases! I had troubles with 4, but 12 (twelve! )!?

I'll stick to my 4 languages. More than sufficient!

What do you mean 12 cases I'm lost

 

[Quark]

What do you mean 12 cases I'm lost

A form of a noun. In german e.g.
Der Junge
Des Jungen
Dem Jungen
Den Jungen

Die Frau
Der Frau
Der Frau
Die Frau


Etc etc etc.

 

[Milkie]

A form of a noun. In german e.g.
Der Junge
Des Jungen
Dem Jungen
Den Jungen

Die Frau
Der Frau
Der Frau
Die Frau


Etc etc etc.

Hm okay. Yeah Finnish is complicated. And there is this thing... http://www.riemurasia.net/kuva/Finnish-lesson-1/132965

 

[Zombi]

Hm okay. Yeah Finnish is complicated. And there is this thing... http://www.riemurasia.net/kuva/Finnish-lesson-1/132965

yeah this is why Fingerpori is so good but I don't know how finnish people understand each other

 

[Milkie]

yeah this is why Fingerpori is so good but I don't know how finnish people understand each other

Haha. Well I guess sometimes we don't.

 

[Milkie]

I've always been bad in grammar, even in Finnish grammar... Too hard.

 

[Sipyloidea]

Hm okay. Yeah Finnish is complicated. And there is this thing... http://www.riemurasia.net/kuva/Finnish-lesson-1/132965

The idea looks a little bit like in Japanese

 

[Milkie]

The idea looks a little bit like in Japanese

Oh

 

[Sipyloidea]

Oh

There are always two or more pronounciations for a "word" (more words for one thing to describe or a thing in the real world, written with the same kanji, but pronounced differently). The kun-pronounciation is often rather unique so the word is quite clear, but the on-pronounciation is the same for many kanji. So a pronounciation like "sei" or "sai" can correspond to a shitload of kanji/things.

 

[Sipyloidea]

There are always two or more pronounciations for a "word" (more words for one thing to describe or a thing in the real world, written with the same kanji, but pronounced differently). The kun-pronounciation is often rather unique so the word is quite clear, but the on-pronounciation is the same for many kanji. So a pronounciation like "sei" or "sai" can correspond to a shitload of kanji/things.

That's why I think it's very important to learn the reading as well as the speaking when learning Japanese because it helps a lot being able make associations with a certain kanji when trying to figure out words with same on-pronounciations

 

[Sipyloidea]

That's why I think it's very important to learn the reading as well as the speaking when learning Japanese because it helps a lot being able make associations with a certain kanji when trying to figure out words with same on-pronounciations

The word ouji for example has over 20 different meanings, consisting of a ton of different kanji corresponding to the pronounciations "ou" and "ji".

王　ou = king, 子　ji = child　-> prince
欧　ou = alphabet, 字　ji = letter -> roman letter
往　ou = long before,　時 ji = period -> ancient times
etc.

 

[Sipyloidea]

The word ouji for example has over 20 different meanings, consisting of a ton of different kanji corresponding to the pronounciations "ou" and "ji".

王　ou = king, 子　ji = child　-> prince
欧　ou = alphabet, 字　ji = letter -> roman letter
往　ou = long before,　時 ji = period -> ancient times
etc.

You just have to know what kanji is meant or try to figure it out from the context.