150K Before WOA 2010

[Gash]

Like Pagan stuff?

Yea, I don't really get why a lot of Christians think anything besides Christianity is Satanic too It's weird.

I also wear the hammer myself.

Yeah, you could call it pagan stuff I was raised as christian (not strict or anything, but I was baptized and went to a christian elementary school) but I never really went to the church or anything.

It's just that I can't live with a religion that was forced upon my people. It is not something that the Europeans chose for. It was spread with violence and betrayal. I think there's no honour in that at all. I dislike the idea, and I dislike the hypocrisy of the bible and many (not all!) of the followers.

Oh, and I don't really like to follow as well

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

I want things proven.
If not proven, it does not exist. (roughly speaking)
Therefore religion is not existant.
(and here I end my opinion, it's rather radical and offensive)

Well religion itself does exist, you can't deny that. But yea, the specific things people believe in are often not proven.

 

[Gash]

I want things proven.
If not proven, it does not exist. (roughly speaking)
Therefore religion is not existant.
(and here I end my opinion, it's rather radical and offensive)

Same here.. but I discuss it with anyone who wants to I try not to disrespect anyone, but I'm not afraid to argue as well

 

[Gash]

Well religion itself does exist, you can't deny that. But yea, the specific things people believe in are often not proven.

True.. that's why it's also called "believe" and not "fact". Too bad many religious people think only they know the truth.. also funny in a way

 

[Quark]

Well religion itself does exist, you can't deny that. But yea, the specific things people believe in are often not proven.

Let's describe as "the basic of religion'.

Religion on itself exists bel et bien. True. Nothing I can do about it.

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

Yeah, you could call it pagan stuff I was raised as christian (not strict or anything, but I was baptized and went to a christian elementary school) but I never really went to the church or anything.

It's just that I can't live with a religion that was forced upon my people. It is not something that the Europeans chose for. It was spread with violence and betrayal. I think there's no honour in that at all. I dislike the idea, and I dislike the hypocrisy of the bible and many (not all!) of the followers.

Oh, and I don't really like to follow as well

Yea I know what you mean... you might be surprised to know I agree somewhat with some of the people against Christianity. Like yes, loads of Christians are hypocrites. I also hate it when they say "join our church or you'll go to hell". It's just not true. I don't know a single person who I think would actually end up in hell. Hitler maybe, but I don't know him.

 

[Quark]

True.. that's why it's also called "believe" and not "fact". Too bad many religious people think only they know the truth.. also funny in a way

Sorry Kris, I honestly don't know how to tralslate this word, but it's called "Kerkwetenschap". (church sience???)
Meaning, the church doing sience! That's IMPOSSIBLE! They're by definition narrow minded as it can be, thus only want to prove their point.
(a nice example is the use of condoms, where SIENCE has stated it prevents HIV, and CHURCH SIENCE says the opposite!)
No, I do not want you to have sex today, nor tomorrow, but whenever you're 'ready' for it, your choice!

 

[cyber999]

hello guys

 

[Quark]

Yea I know what you mean... you might be surprised to know I agree somewhat with some of the people against Christianity. Like yes, loads of Christians are hypocrites. I also hate it when they say "join our church or you'll go to hell". It's just not true. I don't know a single person who I think would actually end up in hell. Hitler maybe, but I don't know him.

Wilders! (sorry, 9 June...)

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

Same here.. but I discuss it with anyone who wants to I try not to disrespect anyone, but I'm not afraid to argue as well

Yea same, I'm pretty open to discussing it. But I also won't force it on anyone who doesn't want to hear about it.

True.. that's why it's also called "believe" and not "fact". Too bad many religious people think only they know the truth.. also funny in a way

Eh not really... if they didn't think it were the one and only truth, why would they believe in it? They'd still be looking.

 

[Gash]

Wilders! (sorry, 9 June...)

Haha.. he will go to Circus Renz As clown!

 

[Quark]

Yea same, I'm pretty open to discussing it. But I also won't force it on anyone who doesn't want to hear about it.



Eh not really... if they didn't think it were the one and only truth, why would they believe in it? They'd still be looking.

Yet, there are (too many) people that claim that the bible (whatever it may be called for others) contains the ULTIMATE TRUTH! And they're blinded by it. Seen enough of them.
Go to Staphorst e.g. (NL)

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

Sorry Kris, I honestly don't know how to tralslate this word, but it's called "Kerkwetenschap". (church sience???)
Meaning, the church doing sience! That's IMPOSSIBLE! They're by definition narrow minded as it can be, thus only want to prove their point.
(a nice example is the use of condoms, where SIENCE has stated it prevents HIV, and CHURCH SIENCE says the opposite!)
No, I do not want you to have sex today, nor tomorrow, but whenever you're 'ready' for it, your choice!

Science you mean?

I don't actually think any church says condoms aren't at all effective. They just teach not to use them because you're not supposed to be having sex anyway. The problem is, a lot of churches won't ever say that it's better to use condoms otherwise than to not. I bet they know that, they just won't ever admit it because they feel like it's encouraging sex.

 

[Quark]

Haha.. he will go to Circus Renz As clown!

Die moe'k onthouden!

 

[Quark]

Science you mean?

I don't actually think any church says condoms aren't at all effective. They just teach not to use them because you're not supposed to be having sex anyway. The problem is, a lot of churches won't ever say that it's better to use condoms otherwise than to not. I bet they know that, they just won't ever admit it because they feel like it's encouraging sex.

The Roman Catholic church did actually. A few years ago. It was shown on BBC television.