I don't know man, Hatebreed is pretty much the most popular 'hardcore' band (hardcore in quotes because I don't want to offend actual hardcore fans) and Killswitch Engage are the most popular metalcore band. AILD, ATR and Mendeed all at least pretended to be extreme with over produced kick pedals. But Hatebreed and KsE are run of the mill Kerrang promoted toss. Combined, I'd say, they are as unwelcome at a metal festival as BFMV. Fuck, these bands even make Trivium look good.
I expect that more extreme bands will be added yeah, but they were already bumped down the roster last year for toss like In Flames.
Wacken is about two years away from a full Download/Ozzfest line-up, and it's shameful.
Like Iron Maiden?Selling a shit load of records to teenagers
Wow. A difference between old and new music. How astonishing.As for Hatebreed being metal, if you investigate some old school thrash and death, maybe you'll be able to spot the difference.
Like Iron Maiden?
Actually, I thought of Maiden as I wrote that. They don't do it for me personally, but I still have respect for the band. But they are well embraced by the crowd of Kerrang 'metallers' in the same way that Metallica are. I wouldn't say that Maiden are doing anything wrong, but I'd say that they do span very different demographics.
As for old and new bands sounding different, that's not precisely what I meant. There's a bundle of contemporary bands producing a sound and feel that resonates with my concept of metal. Any one of a number of the British thrash scene Evile, Gama Bomb, Mutant - Hail Of Bullets and Funebrarum in the death metal world - Tyrant and Haemoth in the black metal domain. Just a few examples. I'll be fucked if there isn't a world of difference between these bands and bands like As I Lay Dying or Hatebreed.