Potential headliners...or the lack of...

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Pil

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*gets a little back to topic*

Of course, as BG is my favourite band, to me they are a very worthy headliner. And I agree, bands just don't get very big (or legendary) in metal anymore. Personally, I think BG is definately one of the bigger bands out there, if you count out all the really big names (Slayer, Manowar, Maiden, Priest etc..). I think they will still grow bigger in time, but let's face it, of the "newer" bands (which sounds awkward, since BG surely aren't the youngest around anymore either) they're one of the biggest. Other big names include those that have had more promotion and such (I'm thinking HammerFall, Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir etc. here). And I think BG have mostly done it on their own strength, without being pushed too much.

Personally, I think if you can get as far as they've gotten mainly because of the music you make, you are definately a worthy headliner. Though it will not be the same thing as the godly bands (but then again, who would you rather see at this moment, Priest or Halford?).

Anyway, Wacken isn't a festival that relies on it's headliner alone, I'm sure there were many people there that care very little about BG, but still had a great time with all the other bands that Wacken had to offer :)

It'd be really cool though if Maiden headlines next year's Wacken :D

And about this thread's original topic, some days ago I read a Kerrang! from 1987 or so, and I found out that the critics that today's metalheadz do against bands like System of a Down (a band I love, btw) are the same that Kerrang did in middle-late eighties against bands like Slayer. In fact, they had two different charts: one with Iron Maiden, Metallica, Queensryche, W.A.S.P., and so on, and another one with the "new-crappy-untrue-metal" like Slayer or Kreator.

Damn, that's quite a scary thought, imagine if Korn is considered real metal in fifteen years :eek:

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Metal Pede

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@ Pil

What I originally wrote was not just based on Wacken. Also on the future of Metal-music. I'm very sad about the future for our scene. Either, our beloved scene will be VERY underground again or in the worst case come to a ugly suffering, like when Grunge came around in the beginning of the nineties.

Most young people and musicians of today, are in to this Nu Metal thingy. Fortune and glory....where the big money is. And the big money is NOT in the traditional Metal scene anymore :-(

But I hope my prophecies dies together with Nu Metal....
 

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Originally posted by Pil

Anyway, Wacken isn't a festival that relies on it's headliner alone, I'm sure there were many people there that care very little about BG, but still had a great time with all the other bands that Wacken had to offer :)
That's true!! I love Blind Guardian, but as I had seen them two months before in Spain, I preferred seeing new bands. And what a fucking nice decision I took!!! Unleashed and Sabbat (in the party stage) did 2 fucking nice gigs!!

Look at Victims of Madness: no more than 150 metalheads were there to see them in the wet stage (and 95% were people from this forum :)), and they made the funniest gig in the whole festival. BG, COB, Savatage, B. Dickinson are very nice bands, but the smallest bands have also very interesting things to offer in WOA
 

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Originally posted by gnoff
It's a bit embarrasing I know, but I never found the Wet stage...
:D
It was on the right side, when entering the festival site, and very near from the entrance. Some cool bands played there, as Eisregen, Suidakra, Mezarkabul or Victims of Madness
 

Pil

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Nah, I think you enter it from the regular entrance (which was one of the downsides, since you had to leave the festival area again). I didn't watch any bands that played there though.

But I agree, a band doesn't have to be big to be good, a while ago I watched a really cool dutch band (Staal) at a very small festival (Stonehenge, 600 visitors), and it was a very funny show :D

As for the future of metal, I think you don't have to be too pessimistic about it, I mean, I think it's going quite well with metal lately, and as long as there will be poeple enjoying the music, it will stay (there are many, many bands that can't make a decent income with metal alone but still play for the fun of it). Maybe the situation is worse in Denmark (well that's the impression I get from reading your posts, and from the rarity of danish people on metal forums in general), but don't despair, metal will stay :)

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Metal Pede

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I hope you're right Pil...I sure hope soo...

And yes, the situation in Denmark is VERY bad indeed. Last year, two of the most famous danish Metal-specialist-shops closed down in Copenhagen...with more to come (if there's anyone left).

In Denmark people like:'

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Metal Pede

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I hope you're right Pil...I sure hope soo...

And yes, the situation in Denmark is VERY bad indeed. Last year, two of the most famous danish Metal-specialist-shops closed down in Copenhagen...with more to come (if there's anyone left).

In Denmark people like:

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