You guys must be kidding!?
JFAC's new album does'nt even have breakdowns - where's the core in that?
that's it!So they don't play 'Doom' material live? Oh, they do? Then they're still deathcore. JFAC are as death metal as Trivium are thrash. Both bands are fundamentally missing the point, attempting to copy the sound of something that they don't understand, and proving themselves to be poseurs in the process.
I'm not gonna hang up on if they're death metal or not, BUT they're extremely talented musicians and very talentful songwriters - weather you like their music or not
I think this point can be argued too, I would suggest listening to the 'solos' again, and see how much talent there really is. There are hundreds, probably thousands, of death metal bands easily capable of writing a generic death metal album, as JFAC attempted to. And for the most part, I'm not interested in any generic death metal - there's just too much excellent DM out there to waste time with anything else.
but still, their songs are not for beginners.
I just can't see why anyone who has a clue about death metal would bother with them.