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Sipyloidea

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I bet there used to be some nazi's that liked to eat bacon too... does that mkae me one then? :p

Well my point was that that other video showed scenes of Blackmetal bands singing about nazi stuff and nazis while the festival doing Siegheil or singing other nazi songs while the breaks... and if that seriously is the case in Ragnarök, then I don't wanna go there. Heck, I don't even wanna go there if there nazis are just present however they act up or not. I don't wanna support a festival where nazis think they are being tolerated as part of the crowd
 

agresionpower

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Well my point was that that other video showed scenes of Blackmetal bands singing about nazi stuff and nazis while the festival doing Siegheil or singing other nazi songs while the breaks... and if that seriously is the case in Ragnarök, then I don't wanna go there. Heck, I don't even wanna go there if there nazis are just present however they act up or not. I don't wanna support a festival where nazis think they are being tolerated as part of the crowd

yeah I know what you mean, I wouldn't go either if that was the case.

I was making my comment to show that small simularities don't mean that you are something...
as the often say in tv shows, and newspapers like "bild" and "de telegraaf".
 

Lady_Wolf

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Heck, I don't even wanna go there if there nazis are just present however they act up or not. I don't wanna support a festival where nazis think they are being tolerated as part of the crowd

So you are not going to any other festival ever again?

Nazi's are every where, and quite honestly I do not care if they are there either. As long as they are being political, like sieg heil-ing (did we just invent a new verb?) or singing nazi songs (not that I would notice, would not have understood a word of that ww2 song if it werent for the subtitles)
You can not forbid nazi's to go the a festival just because they are a nazi. That would be a bit eeehm nazi like
As if you can see if somebody is a nazi or not (when not having like 3rd reich tattoo's or something in your face obvious like that)
 

Sipyloidea

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yeah, what kind of people do they put in there: the ones saying that they do not care about nazi's...

wonder how long it took them to find those morons...

well I don't think they actually mean that. They just didn't put everything of the answers in there but only those parts that leave out what the people actually wanted to say :/ Still I think it's weird that that one guy says there's about 10% nazis at that festival and that's still being tolerated. I am tolerant against nazis since everyone is allowed to have their oppinion but I don't want them around me anyways because their presence would annoy me and the fact that they try to get into metalscene. The video that I found even says it really concrete: Metal is everything that nazis hate, but they get into it because they think they can 'recrute' people. Freedom of oppinion is one thing but that shouldn't be tolerated by the metalheads.
 

Sipyloidea

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So you are not going to any other festival ever again?

Nazi's are every where, and quite honestly I do not care if they are there either. As long as they are being political, like sieg heil-ing (did we just invent a new verb?) or singing nazi songs (not that I would notice, would not have understood a word of that ww2 song if it werent for the subtitles)
You can not forbid nazi's to go the a festival just because they are a nazi. That would be a bit eeehm nazi like
As if you can see if somebody is a nazi or not (when not having like 3rd reich tattoo's or something in your face obvious like that)

As I said, I don't mind people being nazi but I don't want them to integrate into our scene just to recrute people or act up. I want a metalfestival to be metal and I don't want to hear nazi parols when I am trying to party
 

Quark

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Sorry, had to read back first.

One thing I can (and therefor will) say.
I know Tinus Kanters. For those who don't know, he used to be one of the organisers of Dynamo Open Air. He's always been (and still is) an ANTI-nazi, so as far as I can judge him, he wouldn't get Heidevolk into his (new) festival, if he believed they had nazi (NS) sympathies.

Just my 2 cents.