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it's a bad translation of a german saying. Just means that you need to be tolerant about things that she is believing in

true, and I do...
I even agree with her about abortion.
but there's a lot more to take into consideration, imo.

 

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27. It might be wise to learn how to swim if you visit Holland. No, the dikes will hold, that is not the problem. The huge amount of ditches, moats, canals, rivers and brooks can however lead to mistakes. The shiny nice new asphalt road that you wish to drive your car on during a rainstorm, may in fact not be a road at all.

I know how to swim and yea, I witnessed that already. Didn't need to swim though, but I needed to take my shoes off in the middle of Amsterdam

 

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true, and I do...
I even agree with her about abortion.
but there's a lot more to take into consideration, imo.

well, I don't agree with you guys. I think since there is contraception, there must also be abortion. Otherwise too many of the wrong people get children and there is no balance anymore (like it is already). And so many children wouldn't have a life being worth living if they were born anyways. And of course there is the matter of the mother having the right to decide about her body and life.

 

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29. If one of your Hollandse friends invites you for a birthday party, prepare yourself for a unique experience. Unique, because it can only be compared to taking place on a wooden chair which has a sharp nail driven through the underside of the seat, and not being able to move for a month. More than one foreigner has been driven to the brink of insanity in just one evening. A Hollandse birthday party consists of sitting in a chair, talking to other Hollanders about your work, your car, foreigners and politics. You are expected to leave at 11 pm and you'll gladly do so.

yea, I was at a dutch birthday party. This describes it pretty well

 

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30. Do not get sick in Nederland. Over the last ten years, the famous Hollandse healthcare has been privatised. These days some operations, like open heart surgery, have a waiting list of more than six months. The doctors don't think that is a problem, "More than half of our patients for open heart surgery never even show up anyway" they say. Some Nederlandse patients who have become desperate, move to a country like Mozambique, Iraq or Pakistan where healthcare is infinitely better.

This sounds just like the living system. And you still bitch that I don't like the medicine system and the living system over there At least it's not a too long way home if I get sick.

 

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31. Nederlanders leave their curtains open in the evening. This used to be so that the neighbours could always check if your family didn't gamble or drink alcohol. These days it is a precaution against junkies trying to steal the stereo from the family car, parked in front of the house. It has the fortunate side effect that you can watch Hollanders in their natural surroundings, in front of the television, watching soaps.

Do they?

 

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32. Holland has more cities than only Amsterdam. Like ..erm. ..Well, it has!!

well, for me no really other city matter as long as the university of Amsterdam takes me

 

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well, I don't agree with you guys. I think since there is contraception, there must also be abortion. Otherwise too many of the wrong people get children and there is no balance anymore (like it is already). And so many children wouldn't have a life being worth living if they were born anyways. And of course there is the matter of the mother having the right to decide about her body and life.

I agree with you considering the fact that our population worldwide is out of control... but letting people get abortions isn't going to come close to solving that problem.
when you say the children wouldn't have a worthwhile life... well, that's just insane to me. just because you're born into less than perfect conditions doesn't mean you should be denied even a chance. you decide how to live your life, regardless of your situation... it's up to you to make the most of what you have.
also strongly disagree with the mother having the right to decide... chances are, if you want an abortion, you made a mistake. you shouldn't be able to choose the consequences of that mistake... that's not how it works in life, you just take what you get.
and giving them the freedom to choose to have an abortion is nothing short of giving someone the freedom to murder, imo. it's just horrible.
the ONLY exception to that, imo, is if giving birth endangers the life of the mother, in which case she should decide.

 

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33. Hollandse beer has made quite a reputation for itself over the years. Some people even drink it. Brewing is indeed one of the things Hollanders traditionaly do very well. Holland never used to be a country with anything more interesting to do than to drink oneself blind in new and interesting ways or make paintings. This made the beer industry very popular. Experts claim that once you have drank Hollandse beer like Heineken, Grolsch or Amstel, all other beers taste like the tapwater in a Rotterdam hotel.

well, here is the same as in the food case. And of course (like in the food case) I can and will take stuff from home.

 

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told you I was in a mood to debate

 

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101 Rules of Black Metal

 

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1. Don't be gay.

 

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2. Be "true".

 

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3. All people who aren't "true" are gay.

 

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4. Be grim.