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Sipyloidea

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Heaps of Japanese English students have exchange programs here which may be a reason to give it a go. As far as pronunciation is concerns Japanese is really easy and from what I can remember once you got past the 2-3 different alphabets it wasn't all that bad. I think I still have my hiragana chart from year 8 :p

I've known the hiragana alphabet for a while and didn't care too much for katakana because it isn't used a lot. I know a few Kanji, but I don't really know the different readings, but it's really annoying, when you write e.g. the signs "ima" and "hi" together and suddenly it's pronounced "kyou". Or you put the sign for "monkey" together with something else and suddenly it means "yearning". Seems somewhat random to me. What troubles me most atm is the grammar. It's probably because I haven't looked into it, but to me it seems like they don't really use personal pronouns a lot or conjugations, so most of the time I can't figure out who does what.
But of course I've only done this for a hobby for about two weeks now, it's not like I expect myself to be any good yet. I didn't have a class or anything, I'm just figuring stuff out and trying to memorise it
 

Alix

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Obligatory post about my day:

5 hours of tea drinking, internetting and chatting with my friend, her husband fetching dinner and allegedly being hilarious to their 2 year old.
 

Sipyloidea

W:O:A Metalgod
19 März 2007
55.327
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I've known the hiragana alphabet for a while and didn't care too much for katakana because it isn't used a lot. I know a few Kanji, but I don't really know the different readings, but it's really annoying, when you write e.g. the signs "ima" and "hi" together and suddenly it's pronounced "kyou". Or you put the sign for "monkey" together with something else and suddenly it means "yearning". Seems somewhat random to me. What troubles me most atm is the grammar. It's probably because I haven't looked into it, but to me it seems like they don't really use personal pronouns a lot or conjugations, so most of the time I can't figure out who does what.
But of course I've only done this for a hobby for about two weeks now, it's not like I expect myself to be any good yet. I didn't have a class or anything, I'm just figuring stuff out and trying to memorise it
Oh yea, big, big problem is that they don't use space in Japanese to divide words. Everything's just written in one string. But when you don't divide the signs in your mind, the combination of them can change the meaning totally. It's really fucked up :KO:
 

Alix

W:O:A Metalmaster
12 Juli 2010
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near Brisbane, Australia
I've known the hiragana alphabet for a while and didn't care too much for katakana because it isn't used a lot. I know a few Kanji, but I don't really know the different readings, but it's really annoying, when you write e.g. the signs "ima" and "hi" together and suddenly it's pronounced "kyou". Or you put the sign for "monkey" together with something else and suddenly it means "yearning". Seems somewhat random to me. What troubles me most atm is the grammar. It's probably because I haven't looked into it, but to me it seems like they don't really use personal pronouns a lot or conjugations, so most of the time I can't figure out who does what.
But of course I've only done this for a hobby for about two weeks now, it's not like I expect myself to be any good yet. I didn't have a class or anything, I'm just figuring stuff out and trying to memorise it

I was 12 when I last studied Japanese :p I remember a handful of words and I recognise hiragana script, but that's about it. I've forgotten now how to spell my name in katakana but I remember that spells "Arikusu"
 

Sipyloidea

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19 März 2007
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Obligatory post about my day:

5 hours of tea drinking, internetting and chatting with my friend, her husband fetching dinner and allegedly being hilarious to their 2 year old.

I'm having lunch, after that I'll have to take a quit shower and then have to take off for D&D. Why "have to" you ask? Because I've only known the group for two sessions and I don't really like any of them. I haven't figured out yet if I'm staying, but since going to play feels like an obligation, I guess it would be better to find someone else.
 

Quark

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Heaps of Japanese English students have exchange programs here which may be a reason to give it a go. As far as pronunciation is concerns Japanese is really easy and from what I can remember once you got past the 2-3 different alphabets it wasn't all that bad. I think I still have my hiragana chart from year 8 :p
But this might be due to the fact you're relatively close to Japan, and your trade connections with it. But that's just my guess.
I've known the hiragana alphabet for a while and didn't care too much for katakana because it isn't used a lot. I know a few Kanji, but I don't really know the different readings, but it's really annoying, when you write e.g. the signs "ima" and "hi" together and suddenly it's pronounced "kyou". Or you put the sign for "monkey" together with something else and suddenly it means "yearning". Seems somewhat random to me. What troubles me most atm is the grammar. It's probably because I haven't looked into it, but to me it seems like they don't really use personal pronouns a lot or conjugations, so most of the time I can't figure out who does what.
But of course I've only done this for a hobby for about two weeks now, it's not like I expect myself to be any good yet. I didn't have a class or anything, I'm just figuring stuff out and trying to memorise it

Just like your Dutch? I know you did that on your own, and you're doing well!
It's a question of dedication.
 

Sipyloidea

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But this might be due to the fact you're relatively close to Japan, and your trade connections with it. But that's just my guess.


Just like your Dutch? I know you did that on your own, and you're doing well!
It's a question of dedication.

Well, that's a huge difference of course. Dutch is really close by hearning, I understood a lot anyway. And I was always around the Dutch community and had friends to help me with questions. I don't really know a Japanese person on earth...
 

Sipyloidea

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Well, that's a huge difference of course. Dutch is really close by hearning, I understood a lot anyway. And I was always around the Dutch community and had friends to help me with questions. I don't really know a Japanese person on earth...

Also I only wanted to learn Dutch because it became part of my life. Like I said, Japanese is a hobby ;)
 

Sipyloidea

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Also I only wanted to learn Dutch because it became part of my life. Like I said, Japanese is a hobby ;)

I'm not really doing this first because I want to learn it. I'm doing it because I like Doujinshi Hentai and I wanna understand what the stories are about. I actually just take a lot of time time trying to figure out the signs and translating them online. The learning effect is just learning by doing.
 

Alix

W:O:A Metalmaster
12 Juli 2010
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But this might be due to the fact you're relatively close to Japan, and your trade connections with it. But that's just my guess.

USA is probably about as far away, but yeah in general the Japanese love to visit Australia for holidays and do business. Before the global economy turned on its head it used to be very cheap for them to come here.
 

Sipyloidea

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I'm not really doing this first because I want to learn it. I'm doing it because I like Doujinshi Hentai and I wanna understand what the stories are about. I actually just take a lot of time time trying to figure out the signs and translating them online. The learning effect is just learning by doing.

Well, the learning is not totally random. I actually try to memorise what I figured out, because it's way easier typing a sign that you know than finding it again and again.
 

Sipyloidea

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USA is probably about as far away, but yeah in general the Japanese love to visit Australia for holidays and do business. Before the global economy turned on its head it used to be very cheap for them to come here.

Just that we're not from the US :D

My room mate told me they had Japanese in school too. Voluntarily though. But I was really surprised, I've never heard about it over here before.