50K Before Wacken 2012

[Alix]

Please explain

 

[Quark]

The four in German seemed like a lot when I first started, but Finnish is way worse.

But actually, come to think of it, German has actually 12 cases, as the 4 are also GENDER related. Something Finnish hasn't. Every word is gender neutral. Even Kuninga is neutral (King/Queen), though an extention for the female word does exist. (I doubt my spelling here. ) Where the German has 2 different words for King/Queen: resp. (der) König and (die) Königin.

 

[Quark]

Please explain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language

 

[xforeverxmetalx]

Please explain

Explain what? Cases?

 

[Alix]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language

My brain just farted.

What do you mean by "case"?

 

[Quark]

Explain what? Cases?

My brain just farted.

What do you mean by "case"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_case

 

[Quark]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_case

Example. (EN) in German.
(I have given the letter to the man.)
Ich habe dem Mann den Brief gegeben.

subject, dative, accusative.

Die Brille des Mannes ist kaputt. (That man's glasses are broken) (to give a genetive form)

 

[Finnchick]

Don't know.
As long as it means "get well soon", both in resp. Dutch and English, it's fine.

Finnish is a strange language, with so many cases for just one noum, and hardly any simularities with other languages I do know.

Thats might be the reason why it is kind of hard for us to learn first foreign language. We just have to be so different

 

[Finnchick]

But actually, come to think of it, German has actually 12 cases, as the 4 are also GENDER related. Something Finnish hasn't. Every word is gender neutral. Even Kuninga is neutral (King/Queen), though an extention for the female word does exist. (I doubt my spelling here. ) Where the German has 2 different words for King/Queen: resp. (der) König and (die) Königin.

we don't have genders in words but we have different words for males and females.

King/Queen = Kuningas/Kuningatar
Boy/Girl = Poika/Tyttö

but

he/she = hän

 

[Quark]

we don't have genders in words but we have different words for males and females.

King/Queen = Kuningas/Kuningatar
Boy/Girl = Poika/Tyttö

but

he/she = hän

Actually not a good example.

It's like in English, where everything is like "the" (word). Only at persons there's a difference with he/she, him/her etc.

But in Dutch e.g.
DE auto = masculin. (the car) Hij rijdt (it rides)
DE beslissing = feminin. (the decision) Zij werd genomen. (it was made)
HET huis = neutral (the house). Het staat in Best. (it is in Best)

Don't ask why words are M, F or N, I don't know.

 

[Finnchick]

I just read there are SIXTEEN (16!) cases for ONE (1) word. It used to be TWENTY-ONE (21!)

Am I glad I know 4, and use 1¼ on a daily basis.

In a way all 21 still are there but in a way not.

cat-katze
kissa, kissan, kissaa, kissassa, kissasta, kissaan, kissalla, kissalta, kissalle, kissana, kissaksi, kissatta

So 12 is what i could think of for that word.

 

[Finnchick]

Actually not a good example.

It's like in English, where everything is like "the" (word). Only at persons there's a difference with he/she, him/her etc.

But in Dutch e.g.
DE auto = masculin. (the car) Hij rijdt (it rides)
DE beslissing = feminin. (the decision) Zij werd genomen. (it was made)
HET huis = neutral (the house). Het staat in Best. (it is in Best)

Don't ask why words are M, F or N, I don't know.

Yes, we don't have those and those are something I will never learn no matter how much i try. So our language is in some ways really odd and your language in other ways. Oh almost forgot, we don't even tell if it is the car or a car, it is just auto in both cases

 

[Alix]

No wonder I got such average marks in my English classes I'm too tired to try attempting to understand any of this.

 

[Alix]

Only 13 more posts until 2k. Shall I bother tonight?

 

[Quark]

Yes, we don't have those and those are something I will never learn no matter how much i try. So our language is in some ways really odd and your language in other ways. Oh almost forgot, we don't even tell if it is the car or a car, it is just auto in both cases

That's something I can't comprehend. But as long as you understand each other over there, no probs.
Strange for us, however! We like to know if it is a determanated number or undeterminated.

No wonder I got such average marks in my English classes I'm too tired to try attempting to understand any of this.

Don't! Start with German, difficult enough.