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Sipyloidea

Sipyloidea

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xforeverxmetalx schrieb:
I agree with you considering the fact that our population worldwide is out of control... but letting people get abortions isn't going to come close to solving that problem.
when you say the children wouldn't have a worthwhile life... well, that's just insane to me. just because you're born into less than perfect conditions doesn't mean you should be denied even a chance. you decide how to live your life, regardless of your situation... it's up to you to make the most of what you have.
also strongly disagree with the mother having the right to decide... chances are, if you want an abortion, you made a mistake. you shouldn't be able to choose the consequences of that mistake... that's not how it works in life, you just take what you get.
and giving them the freedom to choose to have an abortion is nothing short of giving someone the freedom to murder, imo. it's just horrible.
the ONLY exception to that, imo, is if giving birth endangers the life of the mother, in which case she should decide.
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well, I think the matter of people not taking abortion where is would be necessary is a big part of the problem.
It's not about less than perfect conditions. And a child doesn't have the chance at all to choose what to make out of your life. You can think like that because you had a good living condition. But there are so many children growing up under so terrible conditions that 1. they develope a personality with which they can't become happy 2. They are born into a vicious cirlce of living standards that they can't escape of (it's no conincidence, that poor people are mostly on Hauptschule).
And yes, they do have a right to choose. It's their body. And having sex is not a "mistake". Getting pregnant if you don't want to is an accident. And she is dealing with the consequences anyways, since an abortion is also something hunting you for your life. Btw. do you think it's fair that so many men run away from their girls when they become pregnant and the girl is not able to decide she wants to "run away"?
 
Sipyloidea

Sipyloidea

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Lady_Wolf schrieb:
34. Hollandse tapwater is safe to drink. This is quite remarkable considering that most drinking water comes from poluted rivers like the Rhine. Plans to improve the quality of the riverwater, so that fish like salmon will return to Hollandse rivers to spawn, can count on strong resistance from the Nederlanders. They don't like the idea of animals having sex in their drinking water.
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The water at the Netherlands is pretty dirty, yea... didn't expect that at all...
 
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And now I'm done with this stuff which means I'll be gone. I just wanted to finish this, though I would have liked to get off again since LW pissed me off with her stupid remarks. Sorry, but I don't need that. It's not what I was getting in here for...
 
xforeverxmetalx

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Sipyloidea schrieb:
well, I think the matter of people not taking abortion where is would be necessary is a big part of the problem.
It's not about less than perfect conditions. And a child doesn't have the chance at all to choose what to make out of your life. You can think like that because you had a good living condition. But there are so many children growing up under so terrible conditions that 1. they develope a personality with which they can't become happy 2. They are born into a vicious cirlce of living standards that they can't escape of (it's no conincidence, that poor people are mostly on Hauptschule).
And yes, they do have a right to choose. It's their body. And having sex is not a "mistake". Getting pregnant if you don't want to is an accident. And she is dealing with the consequences anyways, since an abortion is also something hunting you for your life. Btw. do you think it's fair that so many men run away from their girls when they become pregnant and the girl is not able to decide she wants to "run away"?
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true, I haven't had to personally deal with it... but I've seen it. not specifically with adopted kids or anything like that, but I have friends that live in bad conditions, and I've seen how it's affected them.
one of them has nearly been killed BY their parents... when he turned 18, his parents kicked him out of the house, and he was homeless for awhile before one of our mutual friends let him stay with him. another friend is mine living in a house that I only visited once, because it felt horrible to me just sitting there. the dad was talking to my friend's brother about nukes, and other things that were just horrible... and finding them amusing. the same friend's brother has actually MADE bombs himself. that friend's now addicted to smoking, and they all [in that house] have HUGE temper issues.
soooo you can't just assume that I've only known the good side of life, because I haven't. I've watched what can happen when you're not raised correctly, and I've studied it in psychology.
and I have actually been personally affected by parents that don't treat you right, which will most likely follow me for the rest of my life.
but even if a child has to endure situations like this, it NEVER means they shouldn't have lived. life is only what you make of it... some start off better than others, but where you finish depends on what you do with what little you do have.
imo having sex before marriage is a mistake... but that's not the point.
getting pregnant may be an accident, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't face the consequences. and yes, they will anyway, but as I just said, I don't think you should have the option of what your consequences will be.
and of course that's not fair, and stuff like that does happen. still doesn't mean abortion's ever a better option... just maybe easier.
 
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Sipyloidea schrieb:
And now I'm done with this stuff which means I'll be gone. I just wanted to finish this, though I would have liked to get off again since LW pissed me off with her stupid remarks. Sorry, but I don't need that. It's not what I was getting in here for...
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yea, I thought it was really unnecessary for her to attack you like that :rolleyes:
and even if she did think your problems were annoying, she didn't have to be a jerk about it.
*hugs*
 
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