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xforeverxmetalx

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obama is a dick, no doubt about it :p
wouldn't vote for him either.

but I would never ever ever ever vote for romney.
His economic ideas aren't better at all btw, obama is going to get most votes from the guys at wall street. "the economist" actually said this about romney's program: Romney has an economic plan that works only if you don’t believe most of what he says.

Romney's program is better than Obama's - in other words, throwing money at it hoping it works (Keynesian economics in a nutshell). :D What we need is jobs. Above all. GDP doesn't mean crap to your family trying to pay the bills. Romney knows that and hopefully can do better than Obama can with that. At least getting rid of Obamacare is a start.
 

xforeverxmetalx

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And before all you Europeans jump on me about healthcare, even I see the negative impact that's having. On healthcare, costs are going up, not down (even though not quite as much as Romney's saying). And jobs? I work at Walmart. Lots of people do, even at my store. And no one's getting full time. Except some of the cashiers. People who want it and need it aren't. Most are getting 33hrs. So did I, when I first started (now I have less because of school). Why? Employers have to offer health insurance to full time employees under Obamacare.

People who don't care about politics or don't find it interesting because they don't think it applies to them just aren't looking hard enough. :o
 

agresionpower

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Romney's program is better than Obama's - in other words, throwing money at it hoping it works (Keynesian economics in a nutshell). :D What we need is jobs. Above all. GDP doesn't mean crap to your family trying to pay the bills. Romney knows that and hopefully can do better than Obama can with that. At least getting rid of Obamacare is a start.

who ever wins, chances are big the economy will get into a pretty nasty recession in the first have of 2013 because of the fiscal cliff.

and I don't think Romney will do anything good for the average family. He's actually likelu to cause lots of people to lose their jobs.
 

agresionpower

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And before all you Europeans jump on me about healthcare, even I see the negative impact that's having. On healthcare, costs are going up, not down (even though not quite as much as Romney's saying). And jobs? I work at Walmart. Lots of people do, even at my store. And no one's getting full time. Except some of the cashiers. People who want it and need it aren't. Most are getting 33hrs. So did I, when I first started (now I have less because of school). Why? Employers have to offer health insurance to full time employees under Obamacare.

People who don't care about politics or don't find it interesting because they don't think it applies to them just aren't looking hard enough. :o

actually wallmart has been doing that for ever, way before obamacare even was known to anybody they did it.
 

xforeverxmetalx

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who ever wins, chances are big the economy will get into a pretty nasty recession in the first have of 2013 because of the fiscal cliff.

and I don't think Romney will do anything good for the average family. He's actually likelu to cause lots of people to lose their jobs.

I think it could get better. But probably not. :o

actually wallmart has been doing that for ever, way before obamacare even was known to anybody they did it.

Wouldn't surprise me, but according to some people it's gotten worse because of it.
 

Quark

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Oh and something about an election too. :o:D

Nah in all seriousness, it really is a big day. The day to hopefully get Obama out of there.

Not that I'm particularly thrilled with Romney, but at worst it should be better than the last four years.

Yep. And all of a sudden, 90% is without health insurance. (if not 99%) :rolleyes:

It's either right or ultra/extreme right in the US. :(
 

Quark

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And before all you Europeans jump on me about healthcare, even I see the negative impact that's having. On healthcare, costs are going up, not down (even though not quite as much as Romney's saying). And jobs? I work at Walmart. Lots of people do, even at my store. And no one's getting full time. Except some of the cashiers. People who want it and need it aren't. Most are getting 33hrs. So did I, when I first started (now I have less because of school). Why? Employers have to offer health insurance to full time employees under Obamacare.

People who don't care about politics or don't find it interesting because they don't think it applies to them just aren't looking hard enough. :o

But the problem is the ENORMOUS debt of the US, yet, US rating bureaus are afraid to rate the US to a "mess state" (C- if not worse), just because it might be "censured" by the government (what's in your own country can be controlled, and Big Brother aka Uncle Sam is watching you)

And... if the US is really going bad, they use devaluation of the US$, one country, one currency.
A North American $? That's what mostly the US is afraid of. (having to give away power to someone else or sharing it so to speak)

And Keynes isn't such a bad economic basis. Public authority can decide the price indirectly!

And the same as usual, money tickles money. Too afraid it'll bite. :rolleyes: