@ Kroppus
Finally another oldie, now I'm not the only "over 30" on this site! I saw them in the same tour, in distant 1984, in Milan...good ol' days...
To me, Metallica ended with "Master of Puppets", personally I thought "And Justice" was extremely boring and pretentious (even though never I would have imagined how much worse things would have gotten from there on...). Strangely, I even prefer the Black Album to And Justice, because at least it has a great sound and the songs are shorter and catchier. Of course, I like the Black Album in the same way I might like a Brian Adams or an REM song, for example. I mean, we are distant light years from my standard concept of metal...
Last time I listened to Meshugga must have been about 10 years ago...I remember them as very technical and very boring, but they were ok.