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And you dont find that bizarre? how about the fact that if the name "Christian" wasnt present, it would automatically be assumed "satanic" metal by these people? And what about the notion that they cannot make the corna (horn) sign cause its also condemned as "satanic" and doesnt adhere by any means to Christianity and if they had their way (like in the past) theyd kill you for that. I just had to throw that in there !
But seriously I find it hypocritical all around.
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because people like to label everything
I don't understand the point of people calling their bands 'new blackened melodic death metal' or whatever random titles people come up with either...
only explanation I can give about the specific label of Christian metal would just be to tell Christians that hey, we're not like the other death/black metal bands out there.
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And you dont find that bizarre? how about the fact that if the name "Christian" wasnt present, it would automatically be assumed "satanic" metal by these people? And what about the notion that they cannot make the corna (horn) sign cause its also condemned as "satanic" and doesnt adhere by any means to Christianity and if they had their way (like in the past) theyd kill you for that. I just had to throw that in there !
But seriously I find it hypocritical all around.
well the fact is, some people do assume such things... sooo it's more for clarification... even if it isn't necessary
I throw the horns basically daily
and on that note, 666 means nothing to me either as far as Satanic symbolism.
sooo once again, you can't generalize Christians condemning those things.
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What has leaving Atlanta (GA) got to do with it?
She (xforeverxmetalx) has her opinion about religion, being religious herself. That's her right, just like you're entitled to have your opinion in this. One should respect one's opinion.
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what? not all Christian churches condemn those things, because I'm in one of those that don't.
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I say outside of Atlanta because that is an area where people tend to be some of the most religious in the country and im sure he knows what im referring to.
Right away they go after me as if i were attacking someones personal beliefs or theyre "rights". Give me a break.,I never did disrespect anyones opinions, rights or beliefs here.
I may hate Christianity (and proud of it) but i dont hate the Christian. We are all brainwashed in some way.
Right away they go after me as if i were attacking someones personal beliefs or theyre "rights". Give me a break.,I never did disrespect anyones opinions, rights or beliefs here.
I may hate Christianity (and proud of it) but i dont hate the Christian. We are all brainwashed in some way.
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Oooooh! This topic is tasty! It's also, unfortunately, quite indisputable. You really have to weigh both sides without bias to fully grasp it.
On the one hand: Metal. Its earliest roots trace back to the Southern State blues of the early 1900s which was the music of the oppressed and enslaved, a way to let out their woes and come together in grievance and frustration. It was in no way uplifting or immaculate and there, of course, exist the rumours of those who even sold their souls to "the devil" in exchange for blues fame and talent. From the blues came rock and from rock came metal and throughout the progression the music became increasingly loud, aggressive and "sinful", promoting the ideas of sex, drugs and alcohol. Even musically, the use of the tritone or "the devil's chord" (a diminished fifth) was heavily frowned on by religious traditions. It is perfectly understandable, especially in the West, why anyone would consider the amalgamation of metal into "Christian" culture hypocritical.
On the other hand: "Christianity". Literally, the ianity of Christ. Those who believe in Christ and strive to follow his teachings often call themselves Christians. Unfortunately for you, rice, there is no definitive "Christian" church. The title is left solely to the individual, regardless of what religious sect they follow, and it is up to them to determine just how "Christian" they are. It has always been the organization that has been the oppressor and the censurer of music, race and culture, for which I'm sure most anti-religious people detest them. I was raised a Mormon myself (and almost went on a damn mission too!) and I remember my mother shouting at me for "listening to that crap!" upon finding an ACDC album a friend had lent me. However, I never heard anything against such music otherwise from any teachers or missionaries in that particular sect. Though here are a few interesting links to read up on:
http://www.lds.net/forums/276341-post8.html
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=715238#715238
Personally, I'm into metal because of the talent it requires and the energy with which it's played, and I can sympathize with someone who would like to enjoy those same qualities in their music without having to listen to someone viciously attacking their close-held beliefs. Retrospectively, it is pretty wrong to see a group of people saying, "Hey! This stuff ain't so bad after all!" It's like a kid learning to appreciate broccoli after years of rejection and you just want to smack him on the forehead and go, "NO DUH!" but really, in a global sense where some people are actually just trying to get along I don't see why we can't all just unite under metal.
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On the one hand: Metal. Its earliest roots trace back to the Southern State blues of the early 1900s which was the music of the oppressed and enslaved, a way to let out their woes and come together in grievance and frustration. It was in no way uplifting or immaculate and there, of course, exist the rumours of those who even sold their souls to "the devil" in exchange for blues fame and talent. From the blues came rock and from rock came metal and throughout the progression the music became increasingly loud, aggressive and "sinful", promoting the ideas of sex, drugs and alcohol. Even musically, the use of the tritone or "the devil's chord" (a diminished fifth) was heavily frowned on by religious traditions. It is perfectly understandable, especially in the West, why anyone would consider the amalgamation of metal into "Christian" culture hypocritical.
On the other hand: "Christianity". Literally, the ianity of Christ. Those who believe in Christ and strive to follow his teachings often call themselves Christians. Unfortunately for you, rice, there is no definitive "Christian" church. The title is left solely to the individual, regardless of what religious sect they follow, and it is up to them to determine just how "Christian" they are. It has always been the organization that has been the oppressor and the censurer of music, race and culture, for which I'm sure most anti-religious people detest them. I was raised a Mormon myself (and almost went on a damn mission too!) and I remember my mother shouting at me for "listening to that crap!" upon finding an ACDC album a friend had lent me. However, I never heard anything against such music otherwise from any teachers or missionaries in that particular sect. Though here are a few interesting links to read up on:
http://www.lds.net/forums/276341-post8.html
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=715238#715238
Personally, I'm into metal because of the talent it requires and the energy with which it's played, and I can sympathize with someone who would like to enjoy those same qualities in their music without having to listen to someone viciously attacking their close-held beliefs. Retrospectively, it is pretty wrong to see a group of people saying, "Hey! This stuff ain't so bad after all!" It's like a kid learning to appreciate broccoli after years of rejection and you just want to smack him on the forehead and go, "NO DUH!" but really, in a global sense where some people are actually just trying to get along I don't see why we can't all just unite under metal.
\m/
Good reply Canada.
I agree! and by "organization" one could even interpret that synonymous with something "evil" in itself.
