Dear Metalheads,
the public reaction on our announcement of the Pagan Metal band VARG playing...
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the public reaction on our announcement of the Pagan Metal band VARG playing...
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I Agree !!fuck the nazi shit!
Don't know why I'm bothering, I'm just going to be attacked...
But seriously, what's the deal with all this? I mean I get that Germany and most of Europe is extremely anti-Nazi for obvious reasons, but... in 2007, one member of the band ONCE wore a shirt from a band that was NSBM. A... shirt. He didn't start screaming "kill the Jews/blacks" onstage. He wore a fricken shirt.
Call me a stupid American who "just doesn't understand anything" if you must, but excuse me for thinking this has gotten a bit out of hand...
Its part of our culture for not seeing such things as a big deal. Personally, I agree with you. Don't allow NSBM bands to play, but isn't it personal taste if he likes the music? I mean, it might not even reflect his personal opinions, just like listening to certain pagan and black metal about killing Christians doesn't make me anti-christian. It's not being reflected in his open personality, it's not being reflected in his band's music, so why the heck does it matter?
I know I too will probably get shit for saying that. I am not racist, I don't believe in any forms of nazism either. I just think it's time to let these things go.
As far as a know, the vocalist have close relashionships with nazi scum, he has sympathy for n.s ideas
Having relationships with people and having sympathy for N.S ideas are VERY different than acting upon it. I just think it's pathetic to judge a band's music based on one member's beliefs.
so i think they should be kicked out of the festival cause racist scum have no place at wacken. and they is another problem, they will attract more nazis to wacken
oh yeah?. i was told that the vocalist have a friend that has been released from prison recently and told him that he likes n.s.b.m and we wanted to organize a n.s festival
A friend is not him acting upon it. I have a friend I used to be close with who was in jail for assaulting a guy and burnt a church. I'm nothing like the dude. The vocalist likes music of a genre that is intolerant, but if you like any music anti-Christian, so do you. I'm not going to hold a guy's music choices against his band no more than his political choice. I have a friend who likes some NSBM and he is no way associated with the political movement behind it, in fact, he's entirely against it but likes the sound of the music for whatever reason, in the end its up to him, not us. Varg is not a politically-motivated band. Besides, this whole thing was going on three years ago. A lot can change in that period of time. I know this one all too well. I am really not the same person I was in 2007.
Like I stated before, its probably cultural differences. In a way to me "so and so wants to organize a n.s festival" has the same effect to me as my cousins telling on each other over saying "fuck," no offense. We see such group affiliations, black power, white power, and fucked up people who hate humanity, as being no more different than being a member of an undesirable fucked up political group that never in a billion years would win a majority again as long as people aren't stupid enough to vote for them. If you trust people won't ever go for these people they will never gain power.